he is a former board member for the el paso symphony orchestra. what do we know about this del gado person? >> as you said, he was very active in his community, donated money, also started his own scholarship fund for the advancement of latino students who want to major in public policy and administration. and now, you know, we hear that there is another side. we hear he is a really nice guy. but perhaps the allegations are that he has laundered $600 million for a drug cartel. >> well, his lawyer, obviously, says he is innocent. he says he is innocent. he will have to spend 20 years -- what? >> well, the max is 60 years, they will take into account, has he had a prior history. >> well, the question is, will he pay the money back? >> well, this was not a restitution where he stole money, he laundered, it was not as if he was out there stealing legitimate money from a businessman, he is accused of taking the money from a drug cartel, who got it through illicit businesses, and sort of clean it, hence, the term laundering money. >>> and charges behind